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What the hell is a Performance Plus Post-Test?

April 15, 2013

I just saw this grade pop up on my son’s HAC page with no warning. The grade was for a 100-point “Performance Plus Post-Test” that has already been given, so no warning to study for it at home. He did well enough but could have done better with advance notice. I wish I had been given information and notification in advance so we could have studied at home. I sure hope it isn’t a high-stakes grade; I have no idea what it is used for.

Apparently it was a state-required test for 8th grade in basic Algebra, but he is in Geometry. He already got the credit for basic Algebra last year! The teacher says the students knew about it and prepared for it in class, but you know teenage boys – he just did the practice problems put in front of him and forgot about them as soon as class ended! Not much info available via Google, so being lazy today I thought I’d just put the question to the readers.

  1. John Young
  2. John Young
  3. April 16, 2013 at 6:23 am

    Thanks John. Actually I did know that Performance Plus is a line of new Sungard products that are being rolled out. But the DPAS document was gobbledygook and understanding it was more work than I was willing to do on a first pass. Not getting advance notification and explanation of the test is par for the course in Red Clay.

  4. outsideinsider
    April 23, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    I do have a little info that may be helpful. DPAS is a means of evaluating the teacher, not necessarily the student. The pre-test and the post-test are the same. The teacher gives the pre-test without warning to the student to assess the needs of the students. The teacher is required to create goals for that particular class. Based on the pre-test scores, the teacher aligns instruction accordingly to teach the students the information they did not know form the pre-test. The post-test is exactly the same and really should be unannounced to assess whether or not the teacher provide adequate instruction. The goals that the teacher set are to be approved and reviewed by their administrator before and after both tests to see if the TEACHER MET THE STANDARDS. Teachers should not be entering these scores as “assessment” scores on e-school. They should be worth 10-100 classwork points maybe, and should not be worth more than 10-30% portion of their semester grade. Once again, this is designed to be an assessment of the teacher, not the student. If you find that teachers are using this as an “assessent” grade, then I would contact the principal and alert them that tehir teachers need to be on the same page across the board and that their teachers need to be made aware of how to score these tests, because a majority of the teachers HAVE NO IDEA what in the world to do with these scores because DOE is a bunch of idiots and they couldn’t train teachers properly because they didn’t kow what they were doing either! hope this helped

  5. April 23, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Except that this was an Algebra test given to a Geometry class. Which may not matter in the least when it comes to DOE mandates 🙂

  6. outsideinsider
    April 25, 2013 at 7:49 am

    on THAT you may have a point!

  7. JB
    April 30, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    “The post-test is exactly the same” — No. No it is not. Maybe it depends on subject area, but my pre and post tests are vastly different.

    and “Teachers should not be entering these scores as “assessment” scores on e-school.” — If I do not enter the post test as an assessment grade in eschool, I can assure you that my students will not bother to even try on this test. If there is no impact for them, high school students in particular just won’t care. And my performance rating can be tanked by this test alone. I am in survival mode. Therefore, I must hold my students accountable in some way.

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